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The case for reviving Firefly

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  • #18783

    Anonymous

    It all seems to have gathered pace now.

    I have had some email communication with Ron today, and he seems very pleased that it is now moving on as he simply doesn’t have the time to put into it. We are sorting some issues out with Roku, and branding and the domain name, but hopefully these are only minor.

    We are setting up a new forum and going to try and export some of the more helpful posts across to a more spam resistant version. I have already had a couple of offers to moderate and a couple of developers.

    So now we need to get this project moving, we need some pretty good developers, a code manager who can manage a code repository and keep that part of the forum up to date, a packager.

    I have a new website being prepared and logo if we cannot use the existing, I am preferring a new look to show that the project is really moving and get some big backing as it has had a lot of publicity in the past which we need to grow.

    Any ideas gratefully received

    andrew(at)parysnet.net

    #18776

    stretch
    Participant

    @andyg wrote:

    Well, I missed a lot of the above – probably due to the levels of spam 🙄

    The spam volume is significant. Something like 18,000 posts in 4 months.
    The deleted thread count is about to exceed the total number of legitimate posts
    The bots that post into legitimate threads are the worst & take longer to delete despite being <10% of the total spam volume

    #18773

    Anonymous

    @stretch wrote:

    Source code is currently in Sourceforge under the old project name.
    As for the rest. I have no idea where to start so if you want to start a new project then by all means go for it

    Fizze made me a forum moderator simply because i was reporting huge volumes of the stuff.

    If you get a new project going, I’d like to help out with the wiki & as a forum moderator.

    Ok I have a forum setup, working with Ron to get the good posts from this forum to the new one somehow.

    Yes we need a wiki, so we can set that up if you tell me which software to use for the wiki.

    #18781

    blamm
    Participant

    Count me in. The Firefly project deserves more than being buried in spam….

    #18796

    l.aluffi

    Hi!
    Just discovered mt-daapd: It’s a great project and I agree: it does not deserve to be buried. I would like to help in some way, at least by translating in italian, since i don’t know so much about modern computer programming.

    I’m devoted to Ubuntu and, searching in launchpad, I’ve seen that there is already a page for the projec, and a maintainer too: check the url https://launchpad.net/mt-daapd. I guess he’s the one who packages the application for new distribution’s releases.
    Maybe keep in touch with Ubuntu community would be a good thing because the high visibility of the distribution.

    If there is some way I can help, tell me and I’ll be glad to help during the spare time. When I have it… 🙁

    Bye
    Luca

    #18772

    Anonymous

    @l.aluffi wrote:

    I’m devoted to Ubuntu and, searching in launchpad, I’ve seen that there is already a page for the projec, and a maintainer too: check the url https://launchpad.net/mt-daapd. I guess he’s the one who packages the application for new distribution’s releases.

    Nope, he’s not. The mt-daapd package is imported from Debian, and I am maintaining it in Debian.

    #18793

    andyg
    Participant

    @andrew40:

    I’m interested to know how any migration to a new forum might work. Naturally there are some incredibly useful threads that have evolved over time and Ron’s (and others) input has been invaluable in resolving user problems. Evidently we’d not want to lose any of that mine of information. As as suggestion, when any such migration does take place, can I suggest that some sort of period of piggy-backing between this existing forum and the new space exists so that regular posters can cross-check to an extent between the old & new and highlight any obvious discrepancies between them? In other words, let’s not vaporise this forum until we’re sure we’ve got what we need in the new space.

    Granted, I may be being paranoid, but speaking for myself, Ron was incredibly helpful particularly in getting me up & running on the Slug (as a linux idiot) and multiply me by a factor of x you have many users who must have taken that information and resolved their own issues. I know from direct contact that posts I made for Mac users had a positive effect and hugely valuable contributions from blamm, stretch, fizze, EVILripper and others must have helped 100s if not 1000s of users over the last few years. I just want to be sure that when the move is made we keep the knowledge base. I appreciate you’re working with Ron towards that goal but feel it’s worth putting it into words all the same.

    cheers, Andy

    #18804

    sansp00
    Participant

    Well, if I can find the time, I would be willing to contribute … Im a 10+ year experienced developer in C/C++/Java and I did poke around the Firefly code in the past (mostly to port it to the HP Mediavault gen 1). My C is a bit rusty, but if we can get a source code manager (svn would be nice) and create the Eclipse project (it’s free, multiplatform and widespread) to work with the code, I could try to pitch in. For me, it’s mostly the case of finding time 🙁

    #18780

    stretch
    Participant

    @andrew40 wrote:

    Yes we need a wiki, so we can set that up if you tell me which software to use for the wiki.

    Not fussed, I’ll have to learn how to use it regardless of which you select.
    Existing one is a moin moin wiki and i was learning how to use it just before Ron disappeared.

    You want me to put up an announcement to advertise the spam free forum or do you want to wait to see if you can migrate all the posts from here across to the new one first?

    #18777

    Anonymous

    Ron has given me admin access and I also have an extract. I am just trying to see how we can sort i=out the users and import the good posts.

    I have one thought, that I could import all the old posts into the new forum as an archive forum, then the new posts into the new sections. The archive forum would not allow new posts but there for informtion?

    Just trying to figure this out with the current forum, huge and loads of nil post users which I think we should delete as probably spam…

    Andy

    #18803

    stretch
    Participant

    I like the archive idea for old forum posts. Just need to make sure it searchable.
    The new forum needs a 3rd party section for all the add-ons.

    Not sure about the zero post idea. Yes, a lot of them will be spam bots & it’ll probably be easiest to just delete those accounts.
    It might annoy a few people but I can’t really think of a way to determine spammers from legitimate accounts.

    Are you able to change me from a forum mod to a global mod on this forum? There’s a few repeat visit spammers I’d like to ban.

    #18775

    andyg
    Participant

    Agreed, a searchable archive section covers the bases.

    If zero posters get stroppy then so be it. It should take little time to re-register with the necessary security in place to hopefully exclude the bots. You could always include a sticky of some sort to explain why the measure has been taken. I can’t imagine that any reasonable individual would object. As it is, there’s so little traffic from legit posters no doubt directly due to the parlous state of affairs and the halt in development, any advance on the present should be welcomed and embraced! 😀

    #18805

    blamm
    Participant

    I agree. Anything progress is better than the current state of affairs.

    #18778

    Anonymous

    @stretch wrote:

    Are you able to change me from a forum mod to a global mod on this forum? There’s a few repeat visit spammers I’d like to ban.

    Consider it done 🙂

    #18779

    Anonymous

    On the new forum I have added two criteria for new users registering,

    Answer a yes no question
    Answer a question, which has a defined answer i.e. Out of 12345 which is the middle number

    This should stop the automated bots and scripts automatically registering.

    I also note that there are literally thousands of users who have never posted or revisited the site (inactive users), I propose deleting these to clean the system up, and all users with usernames beginning with # as this seems entirely automated as well.

    Any comments feel free… as always

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