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The case for reviving Firefly

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  • #2952

    politicorific

    The development for firefly has been silent for nearly 2 years. During that time, significant events have taken place that demand new interest in reviving this project. Chief among these are the developments of the iphone jailbreaking scene and now recent deciphering of the apple DACP standard. It’s almost unthinkable that firefly and the iphone are not currently working in harmony.

    http://jsharkey.org/blog/2009/06/21/itunes-dacp-pairing-hash-is-broken/

    http://jinxidoru.blogspot.com/2009/06/itunes-remote-pairing-code.html

    This development opens up the possibility of firefly becoming compatible with more devices – the apple tv and ipod touch in particular. What other features could also be added? Greater video support? XMBC compatibility? Home theater devices? Cell phones?

    Yet, this project rested on the shoulders of a single individual for too long and has disappeared. This forum is overrun with spam. I myself am not an experienced programmer, but for anyone reading right now, looking for a project or a way to get involved and experienced with linux – this is the perfect project to pick up. Help is needed – although I must admit I have no idea where to begin to gather support.

    If you’re reading this and just have a feature request or an idea of implementing something, post here. If you’re a firefly enthusiast and bemoan the lack of structured leadership of this project, post here. I can’t be the only one despairing over not having total control of my media. Anyone with me?

    #18798

    stretch
    Participant

    “Stickied” so it stays above the SPAM.

    To the few people who highlight spam within legitimate threads. Thanks. It makes finding & deleting spam easier.

    #18802

    cboxall

    I am very interested in getting the project going again and look forward to a challenge developing for Linux/Mac/Windows platforms. How do we get started? Is the original developer still around and willing to meet. Let me know – you can send email to me personally. I have over 20 years experience developing software applications using a variety of tools and languages. I use the Firefly server on a Linux machine for Mac/Windows and a Roku client.

    #18799

    stretch
    Participant

    The PM function on this forum is disabled.

    Ron has not visited the forum for a very long time.

    Source code is available here

    #18800

    EVILRipper
    Participant

    Ye, I hope we can get firefly’s development from the ground again. I recently graduated as Bachelor on software engineering, but started a new education this week to become Master.
    Therefore I have little time to help, but I would love to. I guess we’ll have to determine a focus as to what point we should improve firefly.
    For example, as said in this topic, we could focus on supporting as many devices as possible, attracting a bigger variety of people.
    Or, for example, we could aim to get firefly to support video.

    I have managed to use the transcoding script to transcode nearly any video using ffmpeg to flv format, which can be streamed to an embedded flv player.
    I wrote a php script which lists and parses all video’s from firefly, creating a list of video’s, making firefly able to stream video’s to the browser.

    Also, if we get uPnP working, I bet a lot more people would be interested aswell. Maybe even include DLNA support, if that is possible. (not sure what it is :))

    Therefore, firefly’s possibilities are unlimited. It could really be so much more.

    #18792

    Anonymous

    I am an experienced project manager, and willing to help get together a group of software developers who want to take this project forward as it does not seem to be an active project anymore.

    I note some of you on here are anxious to move this forward so would love to help get a new project rolling with the help of Ron so that we can bring this great piece of software up with the latest including iphone apps, server features, etc etc etc.

    Let me know..

    Andrew

    #18787

    stretch
    Participant

    @andrew40 wrote:

    I am an experienced project manager, and willing to help get together a group of software developers who want to take this project forward as it does not seem to be an active project anymore.

    I note some of you on here are anxious to move this forward so would love to help get a new project rolling with the help of Ron so that we can bring this great piece of software up with the latest including iphone apps, server features, etc etc etc.

    Let me know..

    Andrew

    Well, I think you just put your hand up to get things moving again. Only problem is how exactly are we to let you know?
    Sorry if I’m a little abrupt. I appear to be the only one trying to keep them spam under control & the volume is significant 👿

    I’ll gladly put in spare time but unfortunately, i don’t know how to write software.
    As it stands right now, I’m considering ignoring this forum. The spam volume exceeds legitimate posts by a factor of 100 at the very least.
    I just wish i could ban the repeat visit spammers

    #18786

    Anonymous

    Simplest thing would be to start a new project, move the forum to a platform that can control the spam, mount the source code in an svn repository like GIT and get some decent programmers contributing to this great piece of software..

    #18784

    stretch
    Participant

    Source code is currently in Sourceforge under the old project name.
    As for the rest. I have no idea where to start so if you want to start a new project then by all means go for it

    Fizze made me a forum moderator simply because i was reporting huge volumes of the stuff.

    If you get a new project going, I’d like to help out with the wiki & as a forum moderator.

    #18785

    EVILRipper
    Participant

    Correct. I’d agree that would be the first step: move to a place where we have full control.
    Guess we’d have to start a forum elsewhere where we can arrange our own anti-spam control, as I believe the current active users do not have the power to do that.

    Then, from there, keep contact active and try to assemble a team of people willing to contribute in any way possible.
    Think of forum moderator, keeping wiki up to date, sorting feature requests, etc.
    Maybe even divide tasks if we have multiple coders who are willing to contribute.

    For now I mostly agree with andrew. Do we have full control over sourceforge or is it still under Ron’s power?
    Who feels responsible enough to take the first step? :>

    #18801

    Anonymous

    Hi

    I would also like to help out – also a project manager and a lot of background in startups but nothing open source.

    iTunes 9 seems to have broken firefly on my readynas pro. Really want Playlist creation feature built into firefly

    Happy to donate a slice on slicehost.com if helpful.

    I agree, best idea would be the take current source code, and start a new project with forums, website etc etc.

    Paul

    #18774

    seanbseanb

    I’d be glad to test new builds. I’ve got a PS3 (DLNA client), several instances of iTunes on different platforms, a couple generations of iPod Touches, and a couple of Archos media players. I also have an extensive music library, and if nothing else, can easily scale-test the software.

    I first discovered Firefly looking under the hood of a Promise NS4300 (a 4-bay home NAS device). While I no longer have that device, I would -love- to have a decent music server running on my Linux file server. I’ve pulled down build 1696, and am working on getting it running on a RHEL 5.3 machine.

    I can do basic hackery, but don’t consider myself a developer. I love doing QA, documenting bugs, and doing systems architecture.

    #18797

    Anonymous

    In case anyone here would be interested, I have a Firefly rewrite available at http://git.debian.org/?p=users/jblache/forked-daapd.git

    Announcement at http://blog.technologeek.org/2009/06/12/217

    Linux-only, some new features, some gone. Like it or hate it, if you happen to like it, I do take patches 🙂 The paint might still be wet in some corners, I’ve not had a lot of time since I completed the initial rewrite but I plan on reviewing the code sometime soon.

    You can clone the git tree from git://git.debian.org/users/jblache/forked-daapd.git

    #18795

    Anonymous

    Ok, we seem to have enough people interested.

    I am prepared to host forum on new server, and make some of you moderators if you want. My company will prepare new site and hopefully will have a chat with Ron on the brand.
    I would like someone on board who has experience and time to work with with GIT and SVN to ensure that is properly managed and ensure developers have proper access.

    Any ideas, start pinging me andrew(at)parysnet.net

    Andrew

    #18782

    andyg
    Participant

    Well, I missed a lot of the above – probably due to the levels of spam 🙄

    Not a programmer, but have used firefly on a Mac for a fair old time now and can attest to some of the glitches that Ron never quite got ironed out on Mac OS and the workarounds. Also on a NSLU2, which is my primary server, and willing to beta test on the Mac and iTouch. More than happy to pitch in to revitalise a top piece of s/w. Get me at agreenacre {at} hotmail {dot} com

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