Port forwarding advice please

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  • #14323
    Anonymous
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    @[email protected] wrote:

    I use a Belkin F5D7132uk with WPA-PSK encryption to extend the range of my Speedtouch 780WL and it doesn’t drop the connection.

    The only modification I made was to use a higher gain antenna instead of the one supplied.

    SoundBridge is running software version 3.0.44
    Signal Quality: 99
    Signal Level: -46dBm

    Hi [email protected]
    Thanks for confirming that it isn’t just a Belkin quirk. The strange thing is that the Belkin is receiving a strong signal from the router, so don’t really need to improve that signal, and the Soundbridge is receiving a strong signal from the Belkin. It doesn’t actually loose the connection, that is still there, I can immediatly connect to internet radio and can see the wireless signal in config. It seems to think that the library has closed, but the firefly log shows no activity after serving the last track that was playing.

    Hi Osik

    I will try a test with itunes, cutting out the firefly option, but if I prove it isn’t firefly I guess I can’t continue to post on this forum!

    regards
    Duff

    #14324
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi all please read this one, as it may be my last chance to find a solution

    Osik, Can confirm that if I connect to itunes (firefly off) I get exactly the same result.

    I am hoping for comments from anyone here if you can help:

    I have realised that if I switch on the Soundbridge with wireless connection to the Belkin Range Extender and then start firefly or itunes, the Soundbridge does not register that they are there. They have to be there when the Soundbridge is restarted, so even if I have firefly active on the network before I switch on the Soundbridge it doesn’t pick it up.

    Likewise, having connected to a music library, if I stop Firefly or close itunes, the Soundbridge still thinks they are there and lets me choose them and then says “Connection to server failed”. This means that regardless of if the library is active or not, the Soundbridge is not interacting with it through the Belkin, except when I do a restart.

    However, move the Soundbridge to a wireless connection through the router and the Soundbridge instantly updates its screen when firefly or itunes is switched on or off.

    From this I deduce that the restart initialises the connection to the library, (firefly or itunes) and then is happy to play its contents, but the link is one way (from the library to the Soundbridge). The guess is that at a point some 70 minutes after the connection the Soundbridge must re-check for the presence of the library and not being able to get confirmation that it is still there, brings back the message that the library has shut down.

    I now need someone to confirm this thinking, and I need a wireless expert to help me figure out why after the restart the Soundbridge-belkin-router-mac connection is lost, when we know we have a mac-router-belkin-Soundbridge connection (the route the music files are taking) and that the Soundbridge-belkin-router connection is still there (because we still have an internet radio link).

    What does the Soundbridge restart do, that the rest of the software can’t?
    Is the break in connection between the router and the mac or does the link from the Soundbridge to the internet differ in any way to the link from the Soundbridge to the library.

    And finally a question for [email protected] if you are still reading this. As you have the same belkin Range Extender as me, any chance you could either post or Private message me with all the settings on your belkin, it may be a longshot with us having different routers, but it would be helpful to compare with mine.

    I do appreciate your continued help and support.

    Duff

    #14325
    [email protected]
    Participant

    @Duffledorf wrote:

    And finally a question for [email protected] if you are still reading this. As you have the same belkin Range Extender as me, any chance you could either post or Private message me with all the settings on your belkin, it may be a longshot with us having different routers, but it would be helpful to compare with mine.

    Sure:

    BASIC

    Wireless Channel: the same as my router
    SSID: the same as my router's SSID
    Wireless Mode: 54G-Auto
    Broadcast SSID: Yes
    Protected Mode: Off
    Repeater/AP Mode: Wireless Repeater Mode
    Parent AP SSID: the same as my router's SSID
    Satus: Connected!


    SECURITY
    Security Mode: WPA-Personal (PSK)
    Encryption Technique: TKIP
    Pre-Shared Key (PSK): the same as my router's PSK
    Obscure PSK: (No)


    SPECIFY IP ADDRESS

    Specify IP Address: an IP within the Address Range of my Router's IP Pool
    Subnetmask: the same as my router's Subnetmask

    MAC ADDRESS CONTROL

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    #14326
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks [email protected]

    unfortunately no differences there, but thanks for going to the trouble.

    Duff

    #14327
    rpedde
    Participant

    @Duffledorf wrote:

    Likewise, having connected to a music library, if I stop Firefly or close itunes, the Soundbridge still thinks they are there and lets me choose them and then says “Connection to server failed”. This means that regardless of if the library is active or not, the Soundbridge is not interacting with it through the Belkin, except when I do a restart.

    Discovery works via multicast dns.

    When firefly (or itunes) starts, it sends pre-caching announcements to the other mdns servers on the network via multicast. These will look like udp packets from the device to 224.0.0.251 port 5353.

    Once it’s up, it doesn’t spam those anymore. Instead it waits for mdns queries (which again look like udp 5353 to 224.0.0.251) from the device asking for servers that have a specific service. The server should respond, and everything is okay.

    It looks to me like something isn’t right with multicast on your setup. Like multicast is only going one-way across the link.

    You can try double-checking all your devices and seeing if they have an option to enable IGMP or multicast, or maybe even something about media streaming.

    Failing that, I don’t know a way to *make* the devices work with multicast (other than a round of firmware updates, potentially).

    – Ron

    #14328
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks for your response Ron

    There is nothing obvious (to my eyes anyway).

    I have emailed BT to see if they can advise on the settings of the Home Hub, but I have given up on Belkin, communicating with them is impossible.

    Duff

    #14329
    rpedde
    Participant

    @Duffledorf wrote:

    Thanks for your response Ron

    There is nothing obvious (to my eyes anyway).

    I have emailed BT to see if they can advise on the settings of the Home Hub, but I have given up on Belkin, communicating with them is impossible.

    Duff

    Might be worth checking for firmware updates — likely others are having the problems too.

    Might be that they have been shamed into fixing it from a barrage of questions from users. 🙂

    — Ron

    #14330
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi Ron
    Unfortunately I am coming to the conclusion that this is one of those unique configuration problems, and unless it is possible to pinpoint the exact issue it will never be resolved. The likelyhood of anyone having the exact set up as me is very unlikely.

    I have checked the firmware, The BT Home Hub has the update that was released last month (I didn’t install it, it must be an automatic update) and there are no updates for the Belkin.

    I did actually think I may have stumbled on a solution last night, but it turned into a red herring. But interestingly it did change the behaviour of the Soundbridge, but for the worse. I switched off the Hub built in firewall and the Soundbridge connected without a restart, it played for an hour then lost its connection as usual, but even a restart wouldn’t reconnect it, it lost internet radio access, it couldn’t even set the time, although it did say it was connected to the wireless network at 100% where usually i am getting about 70-80%. It wouldn’t even connect direct to the Hub it just says no DCHP received.

    Hopefully, this morning, I can put it all back as it was! 🙄

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