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Good with iTunes 7.0

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  • #576
    nswint
    Participant

    So far the latest mt-daap shares appear to work with iTunes 7.0

    #6312
    ipn1nj4
    Guest

    Thanks for posting this. I was afraid to update =]

    #6313
    rpedde
    Participant

    @ipn1nj4 wrote:

    Thanks for posting this. I was afraid to update =]

    I checked it first thing, too. 🙂 Was kinda worried. Whew.

    #6314
    rockit
    Guest

    does not work for me: itunes 7 in mac os X 10. 4.7
    mtdaapd 0.24 installed on my synology 106j

    I’m not sure what the cause is, it was working before, I changed my network config (just the iP range), updated my NAS (working fine)… the server is seen in itunes (good starting point) but after 1 min I get an error messaging explaining that itunes cannot access the share…

    same issue on an other mac on the same LAN…

    maybe just bad luck for me…

    #6315
    pipian
    Guest

    Works for me (aside from it’s random disconnecting from the mDNS server and requiring a reboot, which was a problem before).

    Though has anyone checked for anything new added to DAAP with the update? (passing flags for ‘Part of a Gapless Playback Album’ perhaps?)

    In anycase, Dark Side of the Moon (ALAC) is gapless for me off the server, so it’s all good. 8)

    #6316
    Bosi
    Guest

    In itunes v7 you can select music by scrolling through your albumart. When i select my mt-daapd server then this new option is not possible. Is this a known problem?

    #6317
    pipian
    Guest

    Okay, iTunes 6.0.22 definately can’t read iTunes 7 DAAP shares, but that may not be a surprise.

    Here are two PCAP dumps of an iTunes 7 share:

    iTunes 6.0.22 (Win) accessing iTunes 7 (Mac) (Recieved packets only)
    iTunes 7 (Win) accessing iTunes 7 (Mac)

    I don’t have the time to acquaint myself with any changes from iTunes 6’s DAAP (And I didn’t bother to trace iTunes 7 accessing iTunes 6), so…

    Note: The alternate views are NOT visible in DAAP shares, even with iTunes 7 doing the sharing. So I think that’s a ‘feature’ of iTunes, not a ‘bug’ in Firefly.

    #6318
    pipian
    Guest

    Tidbits gleaned from the initial server response:

    dmap.protocolversion is 2.3 (0x00 0x02 0x00 0x03)
    daap.protocolversion is 3.3 (0x00 0x03 0x00 0x03)
    com.apple.itunes.music-sharing-version is 3.0 (0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00)
    aeFP is new(?) and set to 1

    Tibdits gleaned from the ContentCodes and NOT in http://www.deleet.de/projekte/daap/?ContentCodes

    fx8Dch, dmap.haschildcontainers, 0x01
    agrp, daap.songgrouping, 0x09
    asaa, daap.songalbumartist, 0x09
    asct, daap.songcategory, 0x09
    ascn, daap.songcontentdescription, 0x09
    aslc, daap.songlongcontentdescription, 0x09
    asky, daap.songkeywords, 0x09
    ascr, daap.songcontentrating, 0x01
    asgp, daap.songgapless, 0x01
    apsm, daap.playlistshufflemode, 0x01
    aprm, daap.playlistrepeatmode, 0x01
    aeSF, com.apple.itunes.itms-storefrontid, 0x05
    aePC, com.apple.itunes.is-podcast, 0x01
    aePP, com.apple.itunes.is-podcast-playlist, 0x01
    aeHV, com.apple.itunes.has-video, 0x01
    aeMK, com.apple.itunes.mediakind, 0x01
    aeSN, com.apple.itunes.series-name, 0x09
    aeNN, com.apple.itunes.network-name, 0x09
    aeEN, com.apple.itunes.episode-num-str, 0x09
    aeES, com.apple.itunes.episode-sort, 0x05
    aeSU, com.apple.itunes.season-num, 0x05
    aeGH, com.apple.itunes.gapless-heur, 0x05
    aeGE, com.apple.itunes.gapless-enc-del, 0x05
    aeGD, com.apple.itunes.gapless-enc-dr, 0x05
    aeGU, com.apple.itunes.gapless-dur, 0x07
    aeGR, com.apple.itunes.gapless-resy, 0x07
    aeFP, com.apple.itunes.req-fplay, 0x01
    aePS, com.apple.itunes.special-playlist, 0x01

    Some seem straightforward. Others (like the gapless support) seem quite the mystery. Most likely (for gapless especially) due to the nature of determining the length of the song to allocate a buffer? As mentioned before though, NO configuration is needed for iTunes 7 to play gapless streamed ALAC files from Firefly (presumably as they’re lossless). WAV and AIFF files are probably similar in this regard.

    #6319
    grommet
    Participant

    Correct. The new iTunes 7 browse features are not available for remote DAAP “shared” content. This is for both 2 new views… (grouped with artwork, and the fancy 3D “cover flow”.) So, not much Firefly can do here…

    The gapless playback functionality for MP3 & AAC also does not work remotely.

    No idea if Apple is planning to improve the DAAP client features in a newer iTunes anytime soon… as they are obviously working on finishing up their $300 streaming set-up box, which will support gapless playback and fancy video based browse methods. 8)

    I’m just happy Album Artist is exposed finally.

    #6320
    pipian
    Guest

    Well, all they need to do is figure out those few gapless statistics DAAP now provides and implementation should be easy.

    #6321
    fizze
    Participant

    heh, well spoketh 😉
    its not _that_ easy.

    still I think they’ll do pretty well with their streaming box, given its well priced.
    Although it doesnt feature any HDTV alike content features just yet, it likeley will. They just do this to have a foot in the door.

    Anyway, I really dont think lossless is that important, to me at least.
    Im always surprised how many people seem to want decent lossless.

    0.02€

    #6322
    rpedde
    Participant

    @pipian wrote:

    Well, all they need to do is figure out those few gapless statistics DAAP now provides and implementation should be easy.

    lol.

    #6323
    Mike
    Participant

    How is iTunes implementing it’s artwork? is it embedding it per track, or just keeping an image around for album?

    I’d be interested in bothering to get all the artwork for all of my music, but given how many albums I have, I’d really prefere to only have to do it once. It would be nice if other clients besides just iTunes could see the artwork as well. Recommendations?

    I ask here as last time I enabled cover art in mt-daapd, it causes breakage.

    #6324
    rpedde
    Participant

    @Mike wrote:

    How is iTunes implementing it’s artwork? is it embedding it per track, or just keeping an image around for album?

    I’d be interested in bothering to get all the artwork for all of my music, but given how many albums I have, I’d really prefere to only have to do it once. It would be nice if other clients besides just iTunes could see the artwork as well. Recommendations?

    I ask here as last time I enabled cover art in mt-daapd, it causes breakage.

    It embeds it in the song itself, just as it always has. The only thing thats new or different with 7.0 is that it can download the artwork automatically.

    As far as compatibility, most clients understand embedded art. Very few (that I’ve seen) honor external art. To my mind, the artwork belongs embedded in the song.

    — Ron

    #6325
    grommet
    Participant

    Actually, Apple changed the behavior in iTunes 7.0… if you use the new Get Album Art feature (and it’s successful), it only puts the Album Art into the external database.

    If you drag art into the file, or change it in Get Info, it still gets shoved directly into the file metadata (like pre-7 iTunes)… and also gets put into the external database.

    Not sure if this is a bug or intentional. The external image database is now necessary, due to the new (local only) Album Art views.

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