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  • #25

    t0m
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    I don’t know if this is supposed to be a server or a client feature, or if can’t be implemented with the daa protocol at all.

    Anyway – browsing the database by directory (like you can do with slimserver) would be great!

    /T0m

    #3134

    t0m
    Participant

    is possible to implement “browse by directory” ?

    /t0m

    #3135

    rpedde
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    That’s a client issue… afaik, the only browses that can be done are by artist, album, genre, and song name.

    It would be easy enough to implement, but it would have to be on the client side. So I’d say no, sadly — it would have to be done client-side.

    #3136

    CCRDude
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    But there should be workarounds for almost any situation with the help of a id3 tag manager.

    If folders are album or artist names, sorting isn’t a problem with good tags. If you’ve got exotic folder names, just write them into one of the lesser used id3(v2) tag fields (for example put the folder name into the Componist field, and you can sort by Componist in iTunes).

    All you need is a good id3-tag-manager that can update all these tags.

    #3137

    rpedde
    Participant

    Also smart playlists based on path.

    #3138

    t0m
    Participant

    all id3v2 tags of my mp3 files should be up-to-date.

    my dir-structure is
    /mp3/Alben//
    /mp3/Sampler//

    Since my Roku SB dosen’t support compilations (yet) a browse by dir wold be a woraround for me.

    using smart playlist based on path is not an option: all tracks would be on one list – wouldn’t it?

    If the smart playlist would follow the directory structure.. that would be great 😉

    /t0m

    #3139

    rpedde
    Participant

    Ah, gotcha… no, if you are trying to work around the “roku doesn’t do compilations” thing, then no, that won’t work.

    Sorry.

    #3140

    tgor
    Participant

    I saw that the last reply to this question was at least a year ago. I am seeing support for a browse by folder in other media servers (e.g., TwonkyVision) and it seems to be supported in the latest firmware revision of my Roku as well. Are the prior limitations that prevented adding this feature now addressed?

    #3141

    rpedde
    Participant

    @tgor wrote:

    I saw that the last reply to this question was at least a year ago. I am seeing support for a browse by folder in other media servers (e.g., TwonkyVision) and it seems to be supported in the latest firmware revision of my Roku as well. Are the prior limitations that prevented adding this feature now addressed?

    No, and the real stopper is the roku side. It’s doable on the firefly side, but doesn’t make much sense if there isn’t a client to take advantage of it.

    The roku forums would be the place to bring this up.

    — Ron

    #3142

    tgor
    Participant

    Hmm… I am browsing directories on my roku soundbridge (m500 v2.5.174) right now, using twonky media server. Browsing folders also works on the roku using Telcanto media server (and SlimServer, but I read somewhere that there is something very different about the way that SlimServer works with Roku). My interpretation was that this was a relatively new upnp feature, and that the support of this feature was very new for Roku, but the support for browsing directories does appear to be there on the client now. Am I not understanding something with that support?

    #3143

    rpedde
    Participant

    @tgor wrote:

    Am I not understanding something with that support?

    Yes.

    Each one of those servers has a different protocol to access it. To make mt-daapd/firefly be able to browse by directory would require changing the protocol (doable), but if the protocol changes, it would have to be changed on the client, too.

    Either that, or I could implement the same kind of server protocol that twonky et. al. do — upnp. that’s on my roadmap, but upnp is kind of suckish (imho), and I like the speed of rsp, so I’d prefer to do it that way.

    So the “right” way would require changes on the roku side, and the “wrong” way isn’t on my near-term roadmap.

    — Ron

    #3144

    batka
    Participant

    Hi All!
    I came up with this theme at the Roku forum also, here:
    http://forums.rokulabs.com/viewtopic.php?t=7671&start=15

    My reasons are written in that thread. In short, I don’t use tags. “Browse by folder” feature = playing files without tags in my understanding.

    My idea might be dumb, but I put it here, maybe Ron could consider it. And correct me if I’m wrong.
    Maybe you should just bypass the current protocol, so that there would no need to change the protocol to support browsing by folder/file (since Soundbridge currently don’t have native browse by folder feature). The idea is that you should just emulate the tag infos for the Roku, I mean, the folder name (which contains the flac files, an album tipically) could be treated as Album title (even it’s not), and individual file names as song titles. All the other “tag infos” would be empty. And then at the Soundbridge, we could browse in the “Album” section.

    I see two problem though:
    – of course, together with real tags, would mess up the listing/library. So I guess it is only possible if the normal real tag method would be disabled in this case. Maybe you could make an option in the config file to enable this (and disable tag method at the same time). I certainly would be happy about such a feature.
    – some problems may come related to multiple level directories… What if a folder name is like “artist – album – year”, and that includes two subdirectories, like “Disc 1” and “Disc 2”. In that case what would be the displayed folder name, Disc 1? I guess yes, it still would be better than nothing.

    Thanks in advance!
    Great work!

    #3145

    rpedde
    Participant

    @batka wrote:

    Maybe you should just bypass the current protocol, so that there would no need to change the protocol to support browsing by folder/file (since Soundbridge currently don’t have native browse by folder feature). The idea is that you should just emulate the tag infos for the Roku, I mean, the folder name (which contains the flac files, an album tipically) could be treated as Album title (even it’s not), and individual file names as song titles. All the other “tag infos” would be empty. And then at the Soundbridge, we could browse in the “Album” section.

    Right, plus, everyone tags stuff different ways. I use: Artist/Year/Album/Track – Name.mp3

    So there would have to be some kind of configuration for choosing all that stuff. But then someone would want to have files in a “various artists” folder get tagged as a compilation, etc, etc.

    Best way, I think, is to export a scripting interface so that every time a song is indexed, the script has a chance to edit the tags based on info like file path, etc.

    That’s probably nearer term than UPnP. I hope in the next week (I have the week off) to start on the scripting interface. We’ll see how far it gets.

    — Ron

    #3146

    batka
    Participant

    @rpedde wrote:

    Best way, I think, is to export a scripting interface so that every time a song is indexed, the script has a chance to edit the tags based on info like file path, etc.

    That’s probably nearer term than UPnP. I hope in the next week (I have the week off) to start on the scripting interface. We’ll see how far it gets.

    — Ron

    Yeah thanks really for your answer. I’m not sure if I understand that completely :D, but thanks indeed for your generous works!

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